Mayor McDougall supports a slow tax cap removal—Feet Meet Fire P2

Feet Meet Fire, Part 2 with Joe Ward of Boxer Shorts Media. 

When asked about the tax cap by a young father who is appalled at the taxes he pays on his home, Mayor McDougall left out a key detail in her response. While she referred to the NSFM (Nova Scotia Federation of Municipalities) as leading advocates for removing the tax cap, she neglected to tell him that she is the current President of the NSFM. I'll talk about the conflicted roles she plays as President of the NSFM who advocates for a 10-year removal, and the CBRM who hasn't endorsed an official plan for removal. I offer two calls to action: (1) the CBRM must declare its intention officially, and (2) the choice they make must be included in their strategic vision. I also make another call for the mayor to depart from her role at the NSFM to resolve the conflict of interest. Their plan is better for the HRM than it is for the CBRM—and our expectation is that she's solely focused on our interests here at home, as our mayor.

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Jonathan Pretty Follow Me
Absolutely not , with the overinflated price of real-estate the economic shock would destroy the CBRM , study some economics before making decisions.
Joe Ward My Post Follow Me
You're against the removal of the cap, or the slow removal?
alan spinney Follow Me
so much for trusting her to do the right thing
Patrick Reid Follow Me
She certainly fooled me.
Joe Ward My Post Follow Me
We have to keep the feedback and pressure on. The worst thing her supporters can do for her is give her a free pass. We should compel her back on the path to good leadership potential.
Mike Johnson Follow Me
At this point, anybody who doesn't want the Cap removed, hasn't taken the time to understand it and all the ramifications. If we really want Economic Development in CB, it needs to go. 'Slow Removal' is the right approach and CBRM and the Mayor should be supporting NSFM in that initiative.
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Joe Ward My Post Follow Me
I believe mayor and council need to make a decision as to what they support. If it's the NSFM strategy, then we need an official endorsement. If they have an alternative, they must formula it, and endorse it, and then make sure it's included in their strategic vision, where it is currently awkwardly absent. However, a slow removal actually is not a good strategy whatsoever. It'll be 15 to 20 years before they even put that in place, because political weakness will resist making a move on something that requires the entire province to get behind, while the population is largely in disagreement between those who have a real or perceived advantage and those who are definitely hurt by it. A slow removal works for the HRM because they are a hotter real estate market, which leads to faster new construction in both residential and commercial sectors (including very large scale developments), and the cap is organically broken more frequently with a higher average home value. Since we already languish, that timeline doesn't work for us. The strategy that would allow it to be removed as quickly as 3 years involves securing the $15 Million from Houston annually (or more), and then applying it to reduce residential taxes so as to protect folks (especially seniors) from rapid increases to their tax bill. But the faster we can get the tax system re-balanced the better, and it's much more important in the CBRM than it is the HRM. If you examine the actual state of distortion in our tax base versus Halifax's, the data becomes very clear. We need it off faster. A growth market isn't as hurt by the cap as us because of the turnover, new construction, and advantageous lower tax rates.
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Mike Johnson Follow Me
Richard, Matthieu et al.: This is the right policy and other sites should follow it. It's bad for business, and future contributions, when someone offers a thoughtful (or even innocuous) Comment and is then subject to insults and abuse.
Mike Johnson Follow Me
Mathew....sp.! :)
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Charles Sampson Follow Me
I prefer to have the federal equalization transfers made fully transparent and accountable to all Nova Scotians before any other suggestion is actioned by this mayor and council. Each year, the federal government sends a very significant portion of these equalization payments that are generated because of the municipal deficiency in the tax capacity RELATED TO PROPERTY TAXES AND MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES. This year alone, the federal equalization transfers are $2.458 billion. Approximately, 23% of this total or $565 million is in the federal equalization formula due to this municipal deficiency in this province's tax capacity related to property taxes. Why is this fact again being ignored by this mayor and councillors and all of the provincial governments - past and present? How is a $30 million provincial equalization program (called the Municipal Financial Capacity Grant) adequate to address a problem funded federally by $565 million? With the exception of one current MLA and a former mayor, all of the province's MLAs and MPs appear to have been told to ignore this issue. Doesn't this obvious unwillingness by all government officials - elected and unelected - to explain this distribution of these federal equalization payments within this province raise any concern? All levels of government are complicit in their noncompliance with a constitutional law they enshrined in OUR constitution. It is about time governments were held accountable by the taxpayers of this province. It is time governments' programs were made fully transparent for their expenditures of the taxpayers' money. There is one obvious reason for governments to not do so!
Joe Ward My Post Follow Me
Charles, the CBRM, mayor, and council seem so ill equipped to understand these complex matters that they can't figure out how to raise rates on cabs in the municipality. I think need to break out smaller exercises for them to undertake to advance your position without confusing them—or giving them a scope that allows them to avoid it for years. It's very useful if both they and the general public can easily understand the request and its purpose. For instance, how about a motion to: Have CBRM staff or a 3rd party consultant complete an exercise that: (a) segments the province into two three regions (CBRM, HRM, and non-CBRM [HRM plus rest of province]), (b) using the federal formula for provincial equalization distribution, calculate the amount that each of the three regions would receive IF they were treated like a province, and (c) use this data to determine the percentage of the equalization transfer to clearly demonstrate how much of this federal funding is triggered by the CBRM, versus other parts of the province Once it's demonstrated how much of the money is demonstrated by the CBRM, then phase II is to investigate is enough is making its way here.
Patrick Reid Follow Me
The value of one’s home is not a statement of the amount of money they can afford to pay for municipal services. Certainly income is a factor, but lifestyle and what’s important to you also influences the quality of your home. Why do we punish residents for having a nice property? This will never make sense to me. Retired residents cannot afford to be paying $250.00 a month for services, and there are many residents paying a lot more than $250.00 a month. There are people I know paying double that amount. With regards to the shortage of housing; the taxes on a duplex ranges from $5,000.00 to $6,000.00 a year, on average, plus the owners pay a lot for insurance; and of course they pay income taxes on the income. This is why I won’t build a modern duplex in the CBRM. In closing I would like to add that this council has made no effort to reduce the budget and there are obvious ways to do so.
Joe Ward My Post Follow Me
High taxes are just bad all the way around. The reality is that the municipality is hindering their own progress by not resolving this. They should remember that as they go into negotiations with each of their unions. I'm going to touch on this topic again with a new approach in the future, where instead of talking about fixing the system, I talk about what residents are actually losing in terms of opportunity cost with these excessive tax bills.
Charles Sampson Follow Me
Joe, given our years of just trying to use the government's information and to have them come and explain what is happening has not resulted in any government officials being willing or allowed to come forward and explain what it does with these federal transfers. The current disbursement of $30 million is based on the grant of entitlement that the government used to publish online, but it no longer does even that. Your suggestion would add more valuable information to consider, but I can only think these would also be rejected because it would require them to be more transparent with these federal transfers. I am assuming that the amounts of the federal equalization transfers are calculated to comply with the constitution. Then having the provincial government explain this one category in the federal funding formula to justify why towns have had to dissolve, and why many other municipal units are financially struggling, would help many Nova Scotians understand this issue better. So far, no government official - of/in any official capacity - is allowed to speak about this matter. The government's refusal to explain its own provincial program to its citizens becomes a serious problem of a deficit in democracy.
Joe Ward My Post Follow Me
It's a collaboratively-reinforced inability to act by all levels of gov and the bureaucracy. It's completely puzzling why a municipality who is so adversely affected keeps electing folks that are ok with wallowing in it.
Patrick Reid Follow Me
My personal belief is the value of your home should not determine how much you pay in municipal taxes. There has to be a better way. When someone living in a $50,000.00 home calls police, fire, water department, street department, or any other service, they are responded to. Someone with a $200,000.00 home will get the same response, buy they pay four times as much in taxes. Maybe a good starting point would be to take the part of the budget our homes and businesses tax pay for each year and do the math. I’m not suggesting it is that easy, but it is a starting point and it may reveal something. My greatest fear is more and more seniors will be taxed out of their homes, and given the commercial tax rate, I have to ask; why would anyone want to start a business? Lack of steady cash flow kills small businesses and the return on investment takes a very long time to recover given the cost of commercial property tax, occupancy tax, insurance, utilities, not to mention if you employ anyone you pay CPP, EI, and WCB. Seems to me a lot of money goes out the window before business owners see any money. When they do, they too pay corporate taxes and personal income taxes. The issue is complex for certain, but there appears to be no effort to cut costs. Oh well we are just voices in the wilderness.
Joe Ward My Post Follow Me
I've heard many people discuss the unfairness of taxes based on property value, despite there not being a direct relationship to the level of services provided by the municipality. It's another form of "progressive" taxation. I know one thing for sure: if we eliminated the tax based on property value, we'd be insolvent immediately. I don't think it's an area where we'll ever see any change, but I do believe there is a better argument for progressive taxation in income (as society creates the income opportunity/market), but much less so for property.
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Rohn MacLeod Follow Me
For a gal who promised to keep her employers informed, ( voters) I would give the mayor a minus. In order to drop the CAP, the consequences need to be considered. In order to do that we need a plan laid out for us the taxpayers. We have a large number of seniors who can ill afford the rent we pay monthly called taxes! Take the cap off and many will be fighting over their tents in the parks! Seriously in days gone by only those over 65 got a break on taxes. This should be brought back in a planned end to CAP and a model present to show the taxes for all under the new plan. The tax office also needs to be modernized. It is back in the 18th century!
Joe Ward My Post Follow Me
You're absolutely right about the modelling. It's a relatively non-complex task of postal mailing every property owner in the CBRM with projected increases in their tax bill (or decreases) over the cap removal period. Once they share the actual impact, let the citizens respond to offer their support, opposition, or recommendations for alternative processes. If the mayor is backing the NSFM plan for a 10-year removal, then she needs to let everyone know. I think it should be taken to the CBRM Council with a motion to endorse it—or to endorse alternative plans. That way, they are all on the record with what direction they are taking us in. The mayor is in clear conflict of interest with her role as the President of the NSFM who has a plan for the entire province that may not ultimately be the best fit for what should be her primary concern: the CBRM.
Charles Sampson Follow Me
Joe, isn't the adverse impact of the CAP compatible with the underfunding of rural Nova Scotia and the CBRM, which has resulted in the intended lack of economic development? The refusal by all governments to be transparent/accountable to Nova Scotians regarding the disbursements within this province would also add support to the contention there is no intention to comply with their constitutional obligation. In fact, all of the provincial governments have stated that there is no connection between the federal equalization transfers of billions of dollars and the provincial equalization grant of $30 million. Yet the equalization formula funds categories that suggest are sufficient to comply with the constitution. The question which has been asked of the federal government is: why does the federal government transfer these equalization funds unconditionally when the federal government cannot cite the legal authority for doing so? If governments are not doing something illegal, why their silence and refusal to discuss their own policy regarding the federal equalization disbursement within this province?
Joe Ward My Post Follow Me
I think the diagnosis is incompetence and/or lack of will to spend time on this file. The municipal equalization grant mirrors the structure of the federal grant, and clearly can only be allocated with the federal equalization funding. There's no other source of funding to do so in a "have not" province (in terms of Equalization). The cap has cross over effects with underfunding, but can be examined as bad policy in its own right. Of course, with increased funding, it can be eliminated immediately with no adverse effects whatsoever.
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