Senator Dan Christmas Responds to Father Maroun!

Senator Dan Christmas Responds! Hello all. We did hear back from Senator Christmas. The response is listed below and below that is my Response back to Senator Christmas. Let me know what you think. Father Maroun Here is the Senator Christmas response: Hi Father Maroon: Nice to hear from you. I’m not sure if you are aware but I’m in the process of retiring from the Senate. My last day in the Chamber will probably be December 15. I have not be involved in the debate of C-11 to date and it is unlikely that I will have the opportunity before I retire. But, if I may, I wish to make a suggestion. If your letter writer used a more respectful tone I think the chances of receiving a more positive response will increase. It is tempting to ignore confrontational type of letters as it is unlikely that any response will be satisfactory. I wish you all the best, Father. Dan Here is My response to Senator Christmas: Hi again Dan: I hope you are happy to be retiring. I do not feel that this letter was disrespectful in any way Dan. I read and approve all letters that contain my name and I again, do not feel that I was disrespectful towards you. Your comment "I have not been involved in the debate of C-11 to date and it is unlikely that I will have the opportunity before I retire." I might be mistaken Dan but I am sure the volunteers have shown me where you voted YEA on the second reading of Bill C- 11 in the senate. Am I correct in that statement? We hope that we are able to criticize government for their actions without being called "confrontational" as that is not my nature Dan. I am available if you would like to chat at any point and I hope you enjoy retirement and maybe one day I will follow suit. At 91 now, it is time. Thanks for the response Dan. Albert Here was the original letter that was sent to Senator Christmas: Dear Senator Christmas. How democratic is Bill C-11? Are the advocacy efforts of organizations, such as the Nova Scotians for Equalization Fairness, going to be muzzled for speaking the truth against both levels of government here in Canada. We find it interesting that not one politician, who is currently in power, will sit down and discuss with our group how equalization is being spent and used in Nova Scotia and now there is a bill that is designed to silence our content on this matter. That is alarming Senator Christmas. You, yourself, have made the comment that “Cape Breton is dying, we are slowly bleeding to death” and it was shortly after that statement that the NSEF ramped up its efforts to hold the government accountable in Nova Scotia for how the equalization funding is spent in this province. Anyone who has traveled to the capitol region of Nova Scotia (HRM) can clearly see how this funding is spent. Karen Casey bragged about spending a $230 million surplus of equalization on a new convention center and museum for the HRM, in the newspaper. The HRM does not generate any equalization for Nova Scotia with their strong fiscal capacity. Senator Christmas, I am concerned about two things. The first is why you are voting in favor of Bill C-11 that is designed to stop certain content from being seen by Canadians and secondly, I am concerned about why you are not discussing how you are voting, with the groups and content creators, in Cape Breton. We expect Senators and the Members of Parliament, who represent Cape Bretoners, to communicate with us about why you are voting the way you are in the Senate and Parliament. Does that not sound like a democratic process to you? Having Canadian content advertised on streaming platforms such as Netflix in my view is a good idea but when the content that is created by a group such as the NSEF, that uses 100% of the government’s figures and facts, and that content is muzzled from the citizens of Canada having the opportunity to see this content, is very concerning. I will await your reply and publish it in the same manner that this letter is published for the community to see, and I do look forward to a reply to this letter. As two people from Cape Breton who fight for a better life for our fellow citizens, I hope you will take the time to address my concerns in this letter. Given the powers granted to the CRTC under this bill, Senator, in what ways will open government be subject to full transparency and accountability for Canadian democracy? Why is the Canadian Government trying to put controls on what Canadians see and hear on the internet? Regards, Rev. Dr. Albert Maroun PhD & The Nova Scotians for Equalization Fairness.

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Here is the vote and link to check it out. Christmas, Dan ISG Nova Scotia Yea https://sencanada.ca/en/in-the-chamber/votes/details/590158/44-1
Lorna MacNeil Follow Me
It seems to me, upon following the link that you provided, that Senator Christmas voted to send Bill C-11 to committee on October 25, 2022. So, NSEF takes Senator Christmas's comment - I have not been involved in the debate of C-11 to date and it is unlikely that I will have the opportunity before I retire - to be dishonest. But it is likely that Senator Christmas simply meant that he has not spoken during the debate thus far - as you know, there is a formal procedure attached to participating in a senate debate, and as the bill is still in committee, he will likely be retired before any final vote happens. If you have more information, please share it. This is an important bill and discussing it is important, in my opinion, though I do not understand your criticism of Sentaor Christmas in this regard.
Tars MacEachern Follow Me
I have read through Father Maroon’s comments and in no way find it disrespectful. Dan Christmas you may be retiring but to go out on a lying bad note isn’t the best way to go. Why did you lie about bill C11? Cape Bretoners continue to receive very little whereas Halifax is building multimillion dollar high rises. The problem with Father Maroon’s comments is that he questioned you on very valid points where Cape Bretoners tend to sit back and continue to get disrespected with our meaner pittances. We deserve to receive our rightful “equalization “ without Halifax stealing the majority.
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
Tars,you raised my curiousity.What is our "rightful equalization" ?
Nova Scotians for Equalization Fairness My Post Follow Me
Part 1 of the response to Mr. Raymond MacDonald Tars, if you do not mind, we would like to answer Raymond MacDonald for you. Mr. MacDonald, Tars has been following the NSEF and clearly understands our "rightful equalization". You see Mr. MacDonald; the total equalization transfer is made up of five categories that all relate to fiscal capacity. The NSEF is only trying to hold the provincial government accountable for just one of those categories. "FISCAL CAPACITY RELATED TO PROPERTY AND MISC. REVENUES". This one category has been identified by Trevor Tombe of the University of Calgary School of Public Policy as 23.7% of the total transfer that Nova Scotia receives. So, if we look at that amount alone it is: $2.458 billion (total transfer) by 23.7% (fiscal capacity related to property and misc. revenue portion) equals: $582 million in this one category alone. So, the Nova Scotia Provincial Government uses $30 million when they should be using $582 million. The federal government sends equalization because of a municipal deficiency in Cape Breton and rural Nova Scotia. Now let's look at what the province distributes to the total province from the total equalization transfer. $30 million total and the CBRM receives just over $15 million because the province has determined that we are entitled to 51% of the Fiscal Capacity Grant they send out each year. In reality, we receive $15 million and pay back $22 million in provincially mandated costs so we actually receive a negative $7 million each year. Imagine, the feds send us hundreds of millions of funding to offset our poor fiscal capacity and we benefit by a deficit of $7 million each year. This is how they keep us poor to get more equalization next year. It is a crime in our view and the RCMP are investigating it as we speak.
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Part of the response to Mr. Raymond MacDonald So, Mr. MacDonald let us finish up by discussing the poor fiscal capacity and the intended purpose of equalization. Here is what the Canadian Constitution says about the purpose of equalization in receiving provinces: • o (a) promoting equal opportunities for the well-being of Canadians; o (b) furthering economic development to reduce disparity in opportunities; and o (c) providing essential public services of reasonable quality to all Canadians. • Commitment respecting public services (2) Parliament and the government of Canada are committed to the principle of making equalization payments to ensure that provincial governments have sufficient revenues to provide reasonably comparable levels of public services at reasonably comparable levels of taxation Now Mr. MacDonald, when we look at the property taxes the residents of the CBRM and the rest of rural Nova Scotia must pay compared to the property taxes the residents pay in the HRM. WE ARE NOT EQUAL! We have invited you to call to discuss this with our group, but you have not done so. This organization has had many smart people (lawyers, PhD’s, Political Scientists, University Professors, business professionals, Clergy Members, etc.) and we have done our homework extensively on this subject. When the NS Government will not justify or explain how this funding is spent and they will not use a separate accounting of this funding, there is a problem.
Tars MacEachern Follow Me
Thank you very much for your reply. I appreciate it, I have lived in Cape Breton my whole life. I admit to not knowing all the details but I know how we are struggling to survive. Our unemployment rate and homelessness is at an all time high. Numerous businesses either closed or struggling. Again I appreciate your reply as I’m just another citizen that is one paycheque away from homelessness.
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
Thank you Tars.I fully understand.It's easy to get caught up in potential "spin".I've never taken a side on the issue since I don't know enough about it.I'm smart enough to know however that there are 3 sides to a story.Have a nice day and hope you enjoy the holidays.CHIN UP!
Nova Scotians for Equalization Fairness My Post Follow Me
No thank you Tars for the comment. We have been fighting this issue for over two and half decades and our group is made up of political scientists, lawyers, clergy, PhD's, businesspeople, students, etc. and we have studied equalization extensively and in all those years, no one from government will discuss it because it is not being used where it is supposed to be. We in the CBRM are paying some of the highest taxation in the country while HRM pays half what we do and that is why Nova Scotia receives equalization. We have a poor fiscal capacity and Ottawa recognizes that and provides equalization to make sure we are not overtaxed as citizens of Canada. It says so in our constitution. There are people who try and discredit us for their politician friends but they usually go away when they can not defend the actions of government. We appreciate your comment again and we will continue to fight for equality for Cape Breton.
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
Why are you answering for others???
Lorna MacNeil Follow Me
It seems to me that it is disrespectful to accuse outgoing Senator Dan Christmas of lying about Bill C-11. It is probably worth posting his senate biography here, in case there are readers who are unaware of his committment to making a difference in the world. Biography Mr. Christmas has served in various leadership positions in the Mi’kmaw Nation of Nova Scotia. After serving five years as the Band Manager for the Community of Membertou, Mr. Christmas worked for the Union of Nova Scotia Indians for 15 years - the last 10 as its Director. He was actively involved in the recognition and implementation of Mi’kmaw aboriginal and treaty rights in Nova Scotia. From 1997 to 2016, Mr. Christmas held the position as Senior Advisor with Membertou and had assisted the Chief and Council and its Management Team with the day-to-day operations of the Community of Membertou. Dan also served as elected councilor for Membertou for 18 years. Mr. Christmas has been active in a number of international, national, provincial and local agencies in a wide range of fields including aboriginal & treaty rights, justice, policing, education, health care, human rights, adult training, business development and the environment. Mr. Christmas was awarded honorary degrees from Dalhousie University (2005), St. Mary’s University (2019), Cape Breton University (2022) and an honorary diploma from the Nova Scotia Community College (2016). In 2008, he was the recipient of the National Excellence in Aboriginal Leadership Award from the Aboriginal Financial Officers Association of Canada. In December 2016, Mr. Christmas was sworn in as an Independent Senator for Nova Scotia. Senator Christmas is the first Mi’kmaw senator to be appointed to the Senate of Canada.
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
I agree with you 100%.There are some who make comments like that without knowing the facts.The only answer for people like that is to hit the "ignore" button.
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Who is accusing the Senator of Lying? We simply asked why he voted a certain way. Here is the link to his vote: https://sencanada.ca/en/in-the-chamber/votes/details/590158/44-1 Why is the Senator accusing Father Maroun of being confrontational? Is it because he does not want to answer the question? No one is saying that Senator Christmas is not an accomplished individual. He is and we are proud of him!
Lorna MacNeil Follow Me
Oh, I meant to reply to Tars MacEachren above: "Dan Christmas you may be retiring but to go out on a lying bad note isn’t the best way to go. Why did you lie about bill C11?" I wholeheartedly agree that Senator Christmas is deserving of our respect, and knowing Father Maroun, I am sure he concurs.
Nova Scotians for Equalization Fairness My Post Follow Me
Thanks Lorna for clearing that up. We have met with Senator Christmas and he is a gentleman 100%.
Lynn Hussey Follow Me
I'm not aware that Anyone accused Dan Christmas of lying. I have had high hopes for him speaking up for Cape Breton but this puts a damper on it for me. I think the problem is we expect them to live up to their word and if they don't we find excuses for them, Raymond Mac Donald. Not my thing. Talk the talk and walk the walk.
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
The first commentor early this morning called him a liar.I thought that was an aweful thing to do in a public square.You must have missed that.
Lynn Hussey Follow Me
Yes, I did miss that. But one poster doesn't speak for us al at least not for me. Tks.
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
I never said they did.
Lynn Hussey Follow Me
I 'hear' a defensive reply from Dan Christmas because he's been put on the spot. In no way, was the letter from Fr. Maroon 'disrespectful'. And furthermore what gives them the right to ignore Any correspondence they receive from voters? He's rather high handed if you ask me. I'm disappointed in his evasive reply. I expected better from him. But then again, he's political. They forget They work for Us. j.m.o.
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
I agree politicians work for us but I'm sure there's another side to the story in terms of how much back and forth has gone on in the past.
Lynn Hussey Follow Me
Back and forth as to what Raymond? I'm not sure what you mean.
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
A politician can't be expected to respond endlessly.Maybe there has been excessive correspondence.Most people out here wouldn't know.
Charles Sampson Follow Me
Ray MacDonald stated, "A politician can't be expected to respond endlessly.Maybe there has been excessive correspondence.Most people out here wouldn't know." What is resulting in your politician having to "respond endlessly?"
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
Us folks out here don't know what is going on between parties behind the scenes.So to make a statement like politicians don't respond to you doesn't mean a thing.Maybe they have justification.I do know that making statements like that will help get the crowd behind you.
Charles Sampson Follow Me
Ray MacDonald, do you believe a politician should be held accountable?
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
Of course,to rational folks.
Charles Sampson Follow Me
Ray MacDonald, A "rational folk" is defined as?
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
You can easily look up "rational".I wanna point out a comment you made above "people in HRM pay half what we do": You and I both know you can't possibly back that up so why do you put it out there for people to gobble up? Maybe those same people can gobble this up:THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULD WATCH THE SPIN BEFORE TAKING SIDES.
Nova Scotians for Equalization Fairness My Post Follow Me
Just because you have not seen what we publish does not mean it does not exist. Have a look for yourself here is the link. HALF..... https://data.novascotia.ca/api/views/ure8-3w7m/rows.pdf?app_token=U29jcmF0YS0td2VraWNrYXNz0 If you have any concerns, contact the government of Nova Scotia as like all our data, it is theirs!
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
I'm kinda busy right now but I will try and get back to you.In the meantime say hi to those smart people you guys hang out with.
Nova Scotians for Equalization Fairness My Post Follow Me
Of course you are busy now. When someone presents the facts, you are suddenly busy. You do not have to be smart to google something our government publishes. You should try it sometime!
Charles Sampson Follow Me
Ray MacDonald, you introduced the concept of "rational folk", not I. Do you consider it rational that you cannot define it?
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
I never said I could not define it but merely suggested you look it up.A person learns better by looking things up themselves.
Nova Scotians for Equalization Fairness My Post Follow Me
Your comment was " You and I both know you can't possibly back that up so why do you put it out there for people to gobble up" Then we provide the data you say does not exist and then you say "I never said I could not define it but merely suggested you look it up. A person learns better by looking things up themselves" We have been comparing tax rates between Sydney and Halifax for over 20 years now.
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
Charles,you can go on and on and supply whatever"data" you want.I'm not buying into it and frankly I am not interested.I respond to you guys only to drive home the point that others shouldn't be too quick to buy into it either.I'm a retired auditor who knows spin when I see it.That line that HRM folks pay half as much as us was really something.That itself should be a wake up call for all to treat you the same way politicians do:put you on ignore.
Charles Sampson Follow Me
Ray MacDonald stated: "I never said I could not define it but merely suggested you look it up.A person learns better by looking things up themselves." I did not say you couldn't or could define it! But since you introduced the concept one could assume you may have your view or opinion whatever it may be, which you are not willing to define. Why?
Charles Sampson Follow Me
Ray MacDonald - You can do what you want. But remember the data belongs to government. And you claim you are a retired auditor - so what? Judges claim to be judges, etc.
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
Charles.here's it in a nutshell.Your pitch reminds me of TV ads,actually really close to the ads of the MY PILLOW guy on FOX NEWS.Say something over and over again{in your case 20 years} and a certain percentage of the population will actually begin to believe you.I have the hope that more and more folks out there are catching on to this tactic and change the channel.Bugs Bunny reruns would be much more informative.
Charles Sampson Follow Me
Ray MacDonald, you are sounding more like you retired from Enron!.
Raymond Mac Donald Follow Me
Good one Charles.TRUCE.We both made our points.I have a wash and dishes to do.
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