Destination Cape Breton Island, it is time to grow up.

Some of you may recall the attention given to Destination Cape Breton's promotional package of 2015, more specifically, the fact that although the product claimed to represent Cape Breton's diverse cultures, there was no mention of the Mi'kmaw people to be found. It was also rather white and straight, and they did catch some flack for that, but I put a lot of effort into the lack of First Nation content. I work with First Nations communities and knew about the Powwow Trail, the Membertou Heritage Centre, The Wagmatcook Culture and Heritage Centre, Goat Island, among others, and could find no reason for the exclusion of these offerings other than systemic racism. I have also worked with intercultural and tourism projects both in Cuba and in Chile, and I knew about cultural tourism decades ago. I know it is a product that tourists are interested in and felt that systemic racism was keeping the opportunities invisible to decision makers in the field. I spoke my mind.

Some say that some within Destination Cape Breton took it personally. The good news is that they also took some of what came out during the controversy under advisement and actually improved their promotional product. This is the best part of community engagement. I congratulate them.

Still I wonder why they cannot rise above personal grudges, and why they have me banned from participating on their FB page. It is true that I did speak my mind on the first few Youtube Videos that were posted, but I was not rude. I did not swear. I did not break any of Canada's hate language protections. What I had done was speak the unspeakable. It wasn't personal. It was about something that is systemic here. I did take my concerns to radio, TV and the printed press. This is what democracy is all about. This is the fine country we live in.

Why then is the personal result the fact that I cannot Like or Comment on any of their posts? Is this not rather infantile?

Another question you may have: "Why am I bothering with this?". I believe that we are living in a new age of potential transparency and democratic engagement, and that we will all be better off if elected and public officials embrace it. There are those who have figured out that at this moment they must at least have a FB page. That is a good first step. Official Communications lived with the "one to many" model for a very long time; most of our recorded history. So they are going with that model. But now we have the interwebs. We quickly transitioned through several intermediate steps like instantaneous Person to Person (P2P), some of us enjoyed the delights that Many to One bit torrents offered, but even that has evolved. We are now on the frontier of Many to Many, and successful communicators, as well as successful community leaders, will learn to deal with it.

Below are two screen grabs of the top part of the Destination Cape Breton Facebook Page. One is as it is seen by me. The other is as it is seen by another member of the general public.

First we have as I see their page. I can Unlike the page, Share it, or Share their posts, but I cannot comment on a post, comment on another comment, or even Like an individual post. What is the point here? I cannot contact them with this question as the contact button is also unavailable, as is the direct Message button. Hence this public speaking to them. 

Secondly we have the page as seen by another, someone who doesn't even like it. Even so, as any interested viewer of their content would expect, they ARE able to comment and like posts, find out how to contact the page owners via email I presume from the icon, or direct message them with any concerns.

OK Destination Cape Breton, it is time to grow up. You are a publicly funded agency who has blocked an individual for offering constructive criticism. How do I know it was constructive? Your 2016 package is much better. 

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madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
Two days later and I am still blocked, just in case you were hoping they would be reasonable.
Dan Yakimchuk Follow Me
Unless your initial post serves to shame DCB, I would not be holding my breath waiting for access if I were you. There is a mindset that appears to be held by many political officials and organizations that social media is simply another marketing tool. For them, their social media focus is on one-to-many, thus providing them their righteous justification to block any unwanted attention they receive. Unfortunately, I don’t believe the root of the issue is so much a misunderstanding of the reality of social media, but rather a continuation of their presupposed belief that we only want to hear what they have to say. You used the correct term when you said “‘blocked”, but in this case I believe the blockage refers more to an internal gastronomical blockage that a high school teacher of mine referred to as “heifer dust”.
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
Truth be told, I did kind of hope they would unblock me. The never ending optimist.
Joan O'Connor Follow Me
These people are paid by tax dollars. As a tax payer, you have a right to be heard, if you are not being offensive, which you obviously were not. My question is: why do these civil servants think they have the right to block tax paying citizens, the very ones who pay their salaries? This seems to be part of a larger usurpation of control from citizens, to the civil service, at all levels of government. There is a herd mentality that takes root, and " you are either with us or against us." If you are against us, we will use all tools at our disposal to disparage/control/demean you, even if you are a highly educated professional.
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
Thank you Joan.
Joe Ward Follow Me
It's a huge challenge to decide the communication policy for something like a Facebook page. Essentially, it's a marketing device. If, by comparison, we imagined instead a tri-fold brochure, what if it also needed to include a criticism (even if valid and constructive) in that flyer? Quite unlikely. It wouldn't be fitting. And when a social media presence is set up as a marketing tool, we see those kinds of decisions. It takes a lot of skill in communications to know how to deal with critical feedback in an open forum. That's info that could negatively impact people who are otherwise very happy with you. But that's a reason why a community platform like this one (or an independent blog or Twitter) is so important. Constructive feedback is permitted and the other parties can't do anything about it - as long as those comments are within the law.
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
"essentially it's a marketing device" is the one to many model which they are apparently using. I wouldn't say that was using social media to it full potential. Yes it does take a lot of skill. But as someone else said in this thread, it is perhaps more than this possible lack of skill. Perhaps it is the mindset that engagement is not really welcome.
Joan O'Connor Follow Me
There are many groups fighting to keep the internet " open" and free of the strictures of traditional media. Others are fighting equally as hard to lock it all up. Internet is still a work in progress, I think. I am for open source, wild west internet.
P Sheehan Follow Me
Joan: Destination Cape Breton is not a government organization . It is a private company basically . Check NS Joint stocks. It has no membership other than it's Board of Directors . Municipalities collect a room tax . It is their choice who they contract / hire as room tax money is by provincial law to be used to market tourism .So DCBA people are not civil servants . In another context between the room taxes and ECBC , DCBA has now received over $5 million in the last 5 years and the result is ??? DCBA will say they are CB's official tourism organization but no one in the tourism business has any vote at any table .The wolf in sheep's clothing scenario .
Joan O'Connor Follow Me
The room tax is a tax, Peter. The rest of their funds come from federal taxes through ACOA, the province & a bit from the municipal units. They have no oversight by the people ( especially the people paying the Lion's share, the operators.) I see exactly what you're saying and as you know, i wrote about it on several occasions. one of the last operators to serve on the last board before DCBA went rogue told me as she sat in the room, the comment, " I wish we could get rid of the operators" was made. She was floored. They got rid of the operators. This year, there are no kiosk on HRM waterfront ( where the DCBA said most people who visit CB go first). I don't know what else has been cut or what has been included as i have stopped paying attention. They are civil servants without pensions or benefits in my mind.
Michael MacNeil Follow Me
Madeline Go Cape breton is set up the same way. The CBRM or any other organization can come in here and make a post. They have the option to screen comments. I think anybody should be able to withdraw their post or comment, because of a change of heart, but I firmly believe that comments should be allowed. on all post. I thought that was what Go Cape Breton was all about. I now notice that all CBRM postings and some others like New Dawn who I have the greatest respect for choose who they want to comment on their post. Hey we can go to the Cape Breton Post for that.or like you say Destination Cape Breton.
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
I totally agree Michael. People are afraid of what they call negative comments. I manage social media for a few clients and it is the most difficult thing to do to get them to not delete. My usual first explanation to them is that people often just want to be heard. I have seen conversations that started with a very negative sounding comment, and ended with a thank you. The key is to not go down the rabbit hole of argument, but answer, and if you give useful information in your answer, you will prevent the festering that results from a delete, and the usual poisoning of the circles of that frustrated person, and often end up with a new supporter.
Mathew Georghiou Follow Me
Michael, to clarify ... you or any other member of goCapeBreton.com can choose if you want to allow comments or not allow comments on your posts. The option of allowing or not allowing comments is not exclusive to certain organizations. It is a free feature available to all members of goCapeBreton.com, including you. Allowing members to choose whether or not they want to allow comments encourages people to post more news and information on goCapeBreton.com. This is good for them and good for the community. Just because a member may choose to not allow comments does not mean they are afraid of comments or do not understand social media. Some members simply don't have the time to follow discussions on their own posts. And, some posts are primarily information only. Certainly, some organizations may not want comments so they can avoid the potential for tough questions or controversy. That surely happens too. But, we feel it is better to encourage them to at least share their information here with no comments, than not to share their information at all (which is exactly what would happen, and is not good for anyone). If you or any other member wants to comment on a post, even one that does not have comments enabled, you can still do so by creating a new post to express your opinion. Unlike the Cape Breton Post and other websites, comments and posts on goCapeBreton.com are named (by person or organization). Understanding social media is a big new learning curve for most organizations and it's going to take time for many of them to "get it", particularly when most only know the Wild West of Facebook and Twitter. We think the approach we are taking with goCapeBreton.com is the best way to help people and organizations migrate towards wider community-based information sharing and collaboration.
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
Thank you for all of that explanation Mathew, although I think it has been explained before, and you know my view on it already. I can see if from your point of view, since perhaps you are trying to encourage people to post, but I just don't agree, especially when it comes to public or publicly funded organizations. I don't expect, and would never demand, that you change, but I just don't agree.
Joan O'Connor Follow Me
I got an email notice saying that somebody from gocapebreton.com gave me a dislike on my above comment, but the person was not NAMED! When i went to the post a couple of hours later, there was no dislike. Are we rewriting history?
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
someone could have hit the wrong button and then corrected themselves... is it the comment that you now have two likes on? I HATE those unlike emails! And I also find it difficult to confirm visually if I have already liked something here on goCB. I sometimes hit the like and the count goes down so I am thankful that it is a toggle, that I noticed, so I hit it again. I haven't been aware of hitting unlike by accident but I imagine it could easily be done on mobile by one of us desktop reared folk!
Mathew Georghiou Follow Me
In case it helps .... with COMMENTS, the thumb icon turns WHITE when you have Liked/Disliked something. It is subtle, but we don't have much room available to do much more, particularly on mobile. With POSTS, a checkmark appears on the Like/Dislike/Follow button to show that you have already clicked it.
Mary Campbell Follow Me
Joan! It was me and my fat thumb! I tried to "like" it then accidentally "disliked" it then liked it. So yes, I guess I rewrote history :)
Michael MacNeil Follow Me
They think they are using social media to their advantage but actually they do not understand social media. If you want to be good at Social Media, you have to be able to defend all attacks in comments or leave them alone..If you find you are doing too much defending, well you should probably stay with the Cape Breton Post.
Joe Ward Follow Me
I think the policy is dependent upon the skill level of the people that will be managing the social media channels. It's a challenge. Remember the restaurant in North Sydney that complained about the noisy children? Or the careless comments of Cindy Day regarding Frankie MacDonald on Facebook (or the Fort McMurray fire on air)? Everything can be going great and then you make a mistake that blows up. It becomes a full time job doing damage control and following up on comments; and all that might have to be done by people who don't have professional communication skills to handle it. They'll be quickly overwhelmed and might make things worse - even if it started out relatively innocent. I think goCB has the right policy. All or nothing would mean that certain groups would simply not contribute at all.
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
a minor point, but Cindy Day's comment wasn't about the fire. Her problem was that she didn't know about the fire. But other than that, your explanation implies that some of the public agencies we speak of don't have professional communications staff on board. I say, let them learn, or hire actual professionals. My goodness, some goCB government members can't even write a profile page for the mayor on the CBRM site without grammar and spelling errors. We are not children Joe.
Joe Ward Follow Me
Speaking more broadly, there are many businesses, charities, organizations, and public agencies that either don't have (a) communications professionals on staff, or more particularly (b) communications professionals with expertise in social media on board. We're not children. But we're also not homogeneous. Every particular individual or group will have their own philosophies, objectives, strategies, sensitivities, and skill levels. That will impact their decision to contribute or not, and how openly they want to allow the communication exchange (or not). So I feel like this platform takes those differences into consideration. Think of it like an engineering challenge: Group A: Will never post if comments are allowed. Group B: Will post and allow comments. If Policy X is "No posts unless comments are on", then: Group B is the only one that posts. Group A info sharing is lost. If Policy Y is "You can post without comments on if you choose" then: Both Group A and B may share information. We'll get to reply only to B. We get info only from A. But we could create our own topics to discuss the info from A. Policy Y is better. There is more information exchanged. Policy X will not compel people who don't like comments to suddenly change their minds.
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
You are still trying to convince me, but I just don't agree. This is not group A and group B as equal groups. There are public agencies that don't allow comments. If they decide to not post if they must allow comments then they have the CB Post. I don't feel that the group of individuals who may not post if they have to accept comments is so large that you would represent them as equal to those who don't feel that way, not even by a long shot. If there is one or two, let them learn to blog, where they can control it. Seriously Joe, I see social media as a virtual village square. There are the usual idiots and there are the people with opinions you might want to hear. If you just want a soapbox and won't even listen to comments, well, I just am not interested in the post. This is how I see it. I am not goCB and I am not demanding change, but I know what my opinion is on this matter. This post did start less general. Destination Cape Breton has blocked me on Facebook not on goCB.
Joe Ward Follow Me
I'm not really trying to convince you (maybe I am?). Just trying to share and explain the foundations of my opinion on it. I would much rather them be open for comments. But I recognize that what we want and what others are willing to give are often very different things. If goCB gets people involved in the community by sharing info (without comments), over time they may feel more comfortable with more open engagement. But not giving them the option right now isn't likely to bring them closer to what we desire. So I think we're aligned on the objectives; we probably just have different ideas about the mechanisms/policies with the best chance of bringing that about over time. Another interesting way to think of it is these agencies as "readers", not just posters. Since there is more open discussion here, they end up having to pay more close attention to topics that gain a little steam here versus something like the Cape Breton Post.
Joan O'Connor Follow Me
Thanks Mary & Madeline. The scrappy Irish had her dukes up!
Joan O'Connor Follow Me
On another matter. Spoke to a man today who has been in business in North Sydney for more than 40 years. He is still very, very angry over Archibald's Wharf being " given away." He said the proper place for that business is Sydport Industrial Park. He distrusts the port idea because of what happened there. This guy has a lot of influence over there. Cecil will have a hard time if anybody at all credible decides to challenge him.
Joe Ward Follow Me
Agree. If a strong challengef announces, Cecil doesn't have much of a resume to run on for his performance, but he has some major things that are still angering people. Defying the will of the people in North Sydney is going to hurt him. So he had better hope that CME starts handing out some paycheques over there before September.
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
This is another matter, but I love chaos! (which is actually best defined as order in apparent disorder). The key is that someone credible run against him. There has been a lot of good come out of the civil service part of CBRM... I have been very impressed with relatively new recreation staff for example, so to be honest it wouldn't be worth a change unless it is someone credible. A few new councillors would be nice. A strong council could keep him in tow.
Joe Ward Follow Me
Agree. Clarke might actually be an above average mayor if he had a council that took their jobs seriously, kept him in check, and didn't just do what he asked on every vote. Council could have blocked the Archibald's Wharf sale and did him a favor in the long run. None of them (spare two/three) cared about the public backlash or the strength of the arguments against industrializing a green space. However, I predict there will be a strong challenger emerging. And this time Clarke will have to defend his lack of progress as mayor, and his major failings.
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
I so hope you are right. I have heard a few names but not one I would vote for.
Dan Yakimchuk Follow Me
A few thoughts on this thread. 1. The initial concern raised by Madeline was that she was blocked from DCB and she still is. 2. goCapeBreton (GCB) is a business venture and survives with advertisement funds. 3. Advertises are afforded control over what they pay for. 4. Unlike the Cape Breton Post, which appears to be overtly selective in what comments are posted, GCB provides the community with a mechanism to raise counter concerns by simply creating their own post. 5. Customers of GCB deserve the same “comment” options as the rest of us. 6. At this point, some GCB users are obviously using the site as a 1-to-many tool, but if we don’t like that then we should create our own post and do a 1-to-many right back to them. Be assured they would get the message. Whether they change is up to them. There are 560+ views on this post alone and you can bet DCB is aware that they are here. 7. Using a specific social media tool with inherent constraints can be an effective tool for social change. For example: In this case we should post a comment to the DCB Facebook page with a link to the thread on this page asking them for a comment. https://www.facebook.com/TourismCB/ In my comment on DCB, I simply asked them to comment on the issues raised at https://capebreton.lokol.me/destination-cape-breton-it-is-time-to-grow-up Let’s see if there is a response.
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
Once in a while someone comes up with a plan! I believe that it is important to discuss things openly, to engage community, but it is also important to take action.
P Sheehan Follow Me
Madeleine : are you still blocked by DCBA from their Facebook page ? Given that they are funded by government , maybe they are operating contrary to government policy or practice ??
madeline yakimchuk My Post Follow Me
Yes I am still blocked. I posted when their first videos came out in 2015, comments on their page expressing my opinion about how they erased an entire culture by making a video about our diverse peoples without mentioning the Mi'kmaw. They were not amused. Behind the scenes I was contacted to find out if I had any footage, so I guess they hadn't finished the series, but I didn't have any that belonged to me. In any event, I didn't shut up and ended up on CTV and CBC and in the Herald (and the CB Post too I believe). This years product is very much improved as far as racism goes, but they will NEVER forgive me, I am told. I know another professional communicator on the island who says that the page is so bad it is better to be blocked, but for me it is the principle.

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